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: Anyone up for the ridiculous?


juro
03-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Looking at rental properties in the Bahamas, I am finding that their spread and the relative isolation of some of the islands creates insane rental opportunities for FORUM style sorties.

For instance, in the Acklins / Crooked Island chain which boasts one of the biggest flats to deep water to land ratios in the entire chain with legendary bonefishing and virtually no tourist activities I found a rental home that would cost 6 anglers approximately $250 USD FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK!!!!

Acklins is not easy to get to, most likely you'd have to stay overnight in Nassau (awwww pooor us!) to catch the morning flight to the BONEclave ;)

But there are something like 199 other islands in the Bahamas and virtually all of them have bonefish flats!

Here's one waterfront on Grand Bahamas with car and dingy included! http://www.ifb.com/grand-bahama/index.htm :eyecrazy:

This one sleeps 10 but is more during the winter... http://www.vacation-rentals.org/p16418.htm

But you get the gist. Bone-adventure Claves... just give us miles and miles of flats and the collective wisdom of our co-conspirators and it could very well be a week of INSANE bonefishing or at least a terrific break in the winter doldrums.

A box of cubanos on the table, fine rum, a grill for the catch of the day, roll into town for some lobster, etc. Otherwise nothing but hardcore flats.

Anyone interested?

ashley
03-07-2004, 04:40 PM
Yes, but not till next year.All my fishing for this year is planned already and my vacation time at work is gone.

Adrian
03-07-2004, 05:21 PM
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Smcdermott
03-07-2004, 05:35 PM
Ditto Ashley's sentiment.

Sean

Dble Haul
03-07-2004, 05:35 PM
Well duuuuh......:p

But like Ashley, it would have to be next year for me as well. I've already punched a bunch of holes on my fishing travel ticket for this season.

But hey, I'm not complainin'. :smokin:

Henry
03-08-2004, 12:22 AM
But you'd better be sure of the location otherwise you may have 5 very unhappy anglers tying windknots in your leaders.

I like that sort of adventure but what keeps me back is the uncertainty of the location. I'd want first hand accounts of someone reliable/believeable before making the investment.

Hank

2HandTheSalt
03-08-2004, 05:34 AM
Don't have time to write a report right now, but we are just back from <Andros> $480USD for the week for two. Cuda and sharks at the back door, limited bones a short walk, and unlimited bonefishing is a short boat or cab ride away.

I will try to write something up when my slides get back from the lab.

I haven't done the math yet, but I think you could easily put together an excellent 5-day bonefish junket, including a couple of days guided flats boat fishing for under a thousand USD plus airfare. ( Assuming pairs of anglers sharing room and guide.)

juro
03-08-2004, 06:51 AM
Henry -

I appreciate your comments and it's certainly a criteria BUT...

as far as wind knots we're not that kind of group. We'd be in it as a team of explorers. The way I see it, a week on Acklins or Exuma or Andros or any other reasonable Bahamian Island is as good as WE make it, except for weather which only the big guy upstairs controls. So I'll try to live clean and be good to my loved ones to earn extra bluebird days on the flats when I sneak away :D

It's not an outfitting operation, it's a collaborative exploration. We don't need guides, but we might decide to hire them. Or we might not. We will strategize at night and fish our brains out by day. We will learn from each other and from our own mistakes and victories. It's a fishing trip, that's all. Not to sound over-confident but if you put me on a flats-rich Bahamian island and I can't dig out a healthy number of bonefish in a week just shoot me! I just dug a couple out of an ocean-facing marl patch on Aruba and that was hard. A week of flats fishing in the Bahamas hard? I think not.

But if you want first-hand accounts, you might want to join in on the second or third or.... :devil:

Originally posted by Henry
But you'd better be sure of the location otherwise you may have 5 very unhappy anglers tying windknots in your leaders.

I like that sort of adventure but what keeps me back is the uncertainty of the location. I'd want first hand accounts of someone reliable/believeable before making the investment.

Hank

Adrian
03-08-2004, 08:54 AM
I agree. I love the idea of an exploratory expedition - applying lessons learned over many seasons in similar environments. More like "graduate school". My main thought is picking the right island.

Many Bahamian islands with well established guiding operations guard their flats very jelously - that would rule out Exuma for example, there is some self guiding there but its limited.

Acklins, Crooked, parts of Long Island - there are hundreds of other possibilities. Andros by its sheer size may have a lot of self guiding possibilties also. There is good bonefishing on Nassau by the way - if you know where to go ;) There are some islands where the "guide" just acts as a ferry man and pretty much leaves you alone. That would be my idea of paradise.

juro
03-08-2004, 09:39 AM
Well it seems most islands will require a layover at Nassau, so Acklins is a good candidate afterall, eh?

It's ridiculously endowed with flats. I can attest firsthand to that having just flown over it.

It's unexploited by tourism. I would expect that there would be no conflict of interest with any guides there, and that the bonefish would be quite exploitable provided we had mobility to sample the various flats that surround the island and it's neighbor Crooked Island, or provided we can locate the lodging options we could bounce around until we find a place within steps to the flats.

The tourist reviews say this island is incredible for bonefishing solitude, but they complain that there is no one there to enjoy your fishing with, meaning no casinos, night clubs, carnavals, etc. Sounds good to me! Bound to be very affordable too.

My suitcase will be very simple on such a trip. Shorts, sandals, shirt, hat and sunglasses. Basic tying kit, fishing gear. Sunblock. Throwaway cooler with ice, beer and limes.

Bouncing to lodge B from lodge A will only be a matter of stuffing quick dry shirts into the rolling duffel and heading for the other hotel, in the event we do not try to commit to a big cabana style place as shown in the ads.

One things for sure, we won't freeze to death :D

flyfisha1
03-08-2004, 09:42 AM
I'd love to do something along these lines, but just as with many of the others it would be next year for me, also.

striblue
03-08-2004, 09:55 AM
Since I am planning a trip next year...I would love to get into this....What a great time... great fishing, great Company, Cuban Cigars.... Living on the island....I will never come back.

juro
03-08-2004, 10:03 AM
I was hoping I could get you to join in! We need to tell everyone on the island you are Jimmy Buffet, it might get us free drinks and lodging. :devil:

The resemblance is perfect, now you just need to learn how to sing... "wastin' away agin in margaritaville... trying to find my... lost shaker of salt"

You'll be right at home... WADERS? We don' need no schtinkin WADERS!

FredA
03-08-2004, 10:47 AM
Should have enough in my trip fund by next year. I'm in.

Henry
03-08-2004, 11:01 AM
I hope you didn't misunderstand my post. I'm all for it...I love an adventure. But what I do want is the most bang for my buck. I don't know how well the crew would do with one vehicle for 6 guys though. I would think two would be needed at a minimum so the group could split up...3 even better. Don't forget, even on a big flat...two can be a crowd...6 guys would be an invasion!!! Car rental on any of the Bahamian out-islands runs at least $60.00 or $70.00 per day. Add to that the cost of fuel (might as well be Jack Daniels considering the price).

What's with the "throw away cooler?"...a fantastic idea we came up with is to use a large "soft-sided" cooler initially as a carry-on bag...dump the contents at your accomodations and fill'er with beer and munchies. Kills two bones with one cast!.

An "overnight" in Nassau isn't so bad. Would give the group a chance to get aquainted and organized. Most early "Out-Island" flights depart at 7:00am so you'd be "On-Island" by 8:00...unpacked and rigged by 8:01...he he! and into your first DIY bone by Tuesday...he he he! "Sick humour!".

I'm keeping my eye on this thread for sure because I have at least one week of vacation time that's "uncommitted" for just such an outing (originally thinking Yucatan someplace).

A place "on the water" with access to a skiff would be ideal. We could take turns being "water-taxi-driver" dropping off and picking up duo's to different flats. "Hartswell Cottages" on Exuma would fit the bill for this...damn the local guides!...there's six of us right?

Hank

flyfisha1
03-08-2004, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Henry
damn the local guides!...there's six of us right?

From the looks of it, so long as we can all agree on a week I'd say it's going to be twice that number of members by the time everyone reads this thread today. That would be a neat trip, a dozen or so guys. We'd certainly get to cover the water!

ashley
03-08-2004, 01:19 PM
I'm also keeping an eye on this,I'd already decided to go next year and this idea is excellent.I'd already started to gather info (including a guide book).
Ashley

juro
03-08-2004, 01:46 PM
ANDROS...

http://www.greatrentals.com/bahamas/8051.html

Not quite big enough, but a good sample of the possibilities... kayaks provided... bonefish at the doorstep....

This one is 10+ people at $350 each for the week or LESS, beachfront with 17ft skiff provided!!!

http://www.greatrentals.com/bahamas/6803.html

Barbeque pit... someone pick up a bonito!!

BigDave
03-08-2004, 03:54 PM
interesting....I'm keeping an eye on this one too! ;)

nevada caster
03-09-2004, 12:06 AM
I'm up to the ridiculous. And being retired I have the time. Keep me in touch. However, I like to fish while wading. That not ony means abundant flats, but flats that can be waded. Some are so soft, they just as well be 6' deep. Also, the most reliable weather is after April, and I am already planning for Belize in May and Baja in July.

MattS
03-09-2004, 12:05 PM
I am up for it and would love to join in the adventure!
Put me on any list that developes from this post.

Juro - Do some research (I will as well) on the locations that most of the Guided Trips use. That will give you some indication of what is available and what the island offers (fishing, eating, drinking, cars Yaks, etc) as well as transportation, flights and other possibilities...then adapt your search for fishing spots and home rentals around your new updated info.

juro
03-11-2004, 12:16 PM
OK - sounds like we have the makings of a great outing, epic in fact.

But next year is not ridiculous. It's simply island feverish. Going this year... now THAT's ridiculous!

Anyone out there crazy enough to try to fit something in before spring options arise?

I am happy to wait until next year, but I am thinking who knows? I could get hit by a bus tomorrow. :devil:

I am thinking maybe just a few days on the keys, cheap flights nowadays and camping on **** key or ***** ****** park, etc. On the cheap, kayak rental, etc.

i nEeD tO gO bOnEFisHiNg !!!! :eyecrazy: :chuckle: :hehe:

Next year is a definite.

Henry
03-11-2004, 12:35 PM
Fishing is from canoes for bones that honestly average 4-6lbs. What I've read about this small Island...has got me keenly interested. Seems like it has super DIY potential.

Hank

juro
03-11-2004, 12:45 PM
OK folks... let's get ridiculous.

I need someone who is crazy enough to take a few days on the Florida Keys the beginning of the week starting the 18th April (sun or mon) up to the latter half of the week.

I need to be in San Francisco Spey-o-rama that following weekend so already wrote the whole week off, and my family is away so I am home alone twiddling thumbs on spring break.

Tarpon fishing is getting good, bonefish and permit are on the flats in numbers.

Camping for up to 8 people at $26 per night, shared rental vehicle. Kayak rentals available.

Packing list:

- shorts
- sandals
- hat
- sunglasses
- crazy charlies
- limes

That's about it! :devil:

Roop
03-11-2004, 03:42 PM
And for for anyone sleeping within 50 yards of Juro remember to
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Penguin
03-11-2004, 04:24 PM
...if you're on a budget...:D

juro
03-11-2004, 04:42 PM
You WUSSES! I suppose the crickets keep you awake too :devil:

$207 round trip on American Airlines from Boston... $13/night lodging if split in two, 8.35 if three, 3.50 each if four... the site holds two cars and 8 campers soft sand ON THE WATER on Long Key... at those prices you can even afford the Roopster muffs! ;)

grego
03-15-2004, 11:40 AM
Yes,

I would definitely be up for something like this. This year is probably not possible, but next year sounds good.

Add to packing list--

SPF45 (two bottles!)
sea-lice repellant

MattS
03-15-2004, 11:43 AM
When are we thinking of doing this?

May / June / July...

juro
03-15-2004, 01:03 PM
Matt -

My vote would be to escape from the nastiest darkest days of deep winter, but for those of us with significant others they may never forgive us. ;) Midwinter in any case.

We might also consider a separate couples trip. The more I search, the more rentals I've found of this price and caliber and we could definitely accomodate. That way everyone has fun that week, and chances are the guys would shop less and fish more during the day, and everyone could do their own thing or have social nights scheduled thru the week. The ladies could shop all day provided we can fish all day. A win-win!

We would however have to retain the angler's only trip as first priority. The inaugural trip will be hardcore angling and the couples clave something that we do later on with the knowledge we gather on the first exploratory.

rjbadfish
03-15-2004, 01:47 PM
April is a good time for the Keys. Should be some excellent fishing. I am heading down to the Keys next Tuesday for a much needed vacation. If you need any research done let me know. I promise to leave a couple of fish for those lucky enough to go next month.

Also, If anyone has experience with Cobia on a fly rod, let me know. My contacts tell me they are all over the place down there right now.

Ray Jackson

flyfisha1
03-15-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by rjbadfish
Also, If anyone has experience with Cobia on a fly rod, let me know. My contacts tell me they are all over the place down there right now...

Light tarpon tackle and pinfish imitations are good starts. I'd probably draw the lower limit for cobia with a 10-wt., and would prefer an 11-wt. if the option existed. They were swimming near schools of Tarpon on the Gulf side of Key West when I was down there this time last year. Good luck!

gammarus
03-25-2004, 01:27 AM
I would love to be apart of one of these trips sometime. It won't be for couple of seasons though. I'm booked until the end of 2005. None of my fishing buddies are interested in travelling. I'm also thinking of getting some group trips together for people with families as well. But exploration sounds more interesting to me. That's why I fish, afterall.:smokin:

grego
04-23-2004, 10:02 AM
Juro,

Along this same vien...

My dad was talking to a guy from this sportsman club who had just come back from a Month in Belieze. He rented a Cottage (Bungalo) with water & fishing access the cost was $600, For the Month (not per week!). He caught Bones on his own & did a Guide one day (for $275) & caught 22 fish!

He also said he got a decent airfare out of RI (T.F. Green I guess)

I could ask by dad to get more details from him if there is interest?

juro
04-24-2004, 06:50 AM
Grego -

That's a crazy deal, definitely would like to get that info. I think there are deals like this out there for the creative to pull together some world class adventures.

gammarus
04-24-2004, 11:09 AM
Let me know about this one too.

Adrian
04-24-2004, 11:59 AM
Sounds good to me too ;)

Dave17
09-16-2004, 01:35 PM
Bumping this back up. Starting to plan vaca. time for next year and was wondering if there's been anymore talk of this trip. I'd be willing to do a lot of leg work and organizing if people are still interested. Anything for a week of bones in the middle of winter :smokin:

Dave

ashley
09-16-2004, 06:14 PM
Dave,
I'm still interested.I'm starting to plan my fishing for next year once I get back from Cape Cod.
Ashley

Henry
09-17-2004, 08:55 AM
My buddy and I are off to Eleuthera again from April 2 to 24th...anyone else going to be there?

JusBones
11-15-2004, 12:13 PM
Greetings:
Just recently got turned on to this site. I have in the past tried to put together a group or 2 for a trip to Abaco. I find that ya gotta just pick a date, decide on the place to fish, place to stay, and provide an overview of the logistical support plans
(Beer, food, number of bedrooms, and so on).....then do the math..throw out an estimated price and work with the guys who wanna go....I agree with an earlier post of "Damn the guides" and also agree with "Damn the Outfitters" :hihi:

JDJones
11-15-2004, 01:47 PM
These kind of trips used to be the norm,,,,,before the lodges, the hype, etc.
The So. Cal. club I used to belong to did it all the time. Only difference was someone, who had been there before, sponsored the trip. Acting as coordinator. We used to read magazine articles of guys that did this sort of thing. Charter a Grummand Goose to drop you off for a week of 24 hour a day Salmon fishing on some remote island in Alaska. Or bonefishing the Bahamas.
If you dig around on the web you can find sites that list house swaps all over the globe. You would be surprised how many people would love to trade a week, or the whole summer, Bahamas, Hawaii even, for New England, Calif. the Rockies.
Go for it. I may even be tempted to dig out the 7, 9, 11wt single handers.