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longrod
03-05-2004, 06:59 PM
Boat building season is upon us and I was wondering where the various projects stood?
Started finishing up My OD-16. The rail caps should go on shortly, Motor is ordered, trailer is ordered, and temporary seats are done. The most time consuming job left is the casting deck and anchor locker. I have a couple of dependable people who will haelp me finish up.
It has been a bigger chore than expected. Albies watch out cause here I come!:D

kjackson
03-07-2004, 09:19 PM
Here's my project, but it's not as impressive as an OD 16: I'm building (or starting the process) a 10-foot pram. I haven't quite decided on the design as of the moment, but I'm ordering fiberglass, epoxy and such from bateau.com tomorrow.

I'm looking at this as an entry-level boat that will also give me a lowland-lake boat that I want. I really miss rowing along, mooching a fly or casting to rises. This boat will be a reincarnation of my first boat, an 8-foot pram, but obviously bigger, safer and more comfortable.

After that-- I'm hoping to move up to a garvey-style, but I'm not 100 percent on that design, either. But since it will also perform as a duckboat, I have a timeframe in which to build... our season starts in October.

Keith

longrod
03-10-2004, 06:25 PM
Keith,
Great to see another builder. Hope the pram works. Use marine ply much lighter.
I know there is at least one other project
out there somewhere.
I hope my next is one of bateau's 23' boats. After this boat which I chose because it looked deceptively easy, it will be a couple of years.
++++

kjackson
03-10-2004, 06:57 PM
A couple of years scares me. However, I've selected the plans-- a U-Bild pattern that I will expand by 20 percent-- a no-no on the bateau site where they recommend only a 10 percent change.

I do know similar boats have been built, and I've got the scantlings from those and those on the bateau site as well. I figure that if I use 1/4-inch ply and then glass the bottom with biaxial glass similar to what is recommended for the GF 12, I'll be all right, or nearly so.

In one respect I'm lucky-- I live in Port Townsend, Washington, where there is a lot of boat-building activity. Boat lumber is just a short drive away, and I can pick up marine ply in sheets to 16 feet long.

I'm thinking I'll start this weekend...

My eventual target is to build the Pilothouse 21, but that looks to be a scary project. So I'll proceed in steps. I'm either building a garvey after this (if I don't burn out on the pram) or perhaps the OD-16.

We'll see.

Keith

Hawkeye
03-18-2004, 10:25 AM
I haven't updated my progress but there really hasn't been a lot what with a combination of a new marriage, weather, work, and project funding. We almost had it finished last weekend but ran into a snag installing the shift cable. So many things on an engine require special tools and we tried to get around buying the tool and paid the price in time and effort lost. Anyway I think the engine will go in on Saturday along with all the other minor projects that need completing such as running lights, guages, fish finder, GPS, Anchor cleat .... With a touch of luck we very well may launch next Sunday. We started serious work in mid April last year so we are looking at nearly a one year project when we thought a few months at the most.

Here's a shot of the engine hanging over the boat waiting for us to get that shift cable installed - it waited quite a while.

craig
03-19-2004, 09:45 AM
It might have taken longer than you thought, but it is quite the achievement. Congrats to both you guys!!!!!! Can't wait to see it in the water!

longrod
03-21-2004, 09:10 AM
It looks like all the various projects are coming together. I will launch in May whether or not I have the final coat of paint on. Motor due for pickup shortly, trailer due in next week, and volunteer help has been arranged.
I will try again to put up photos next week.
Longrod

Hawkeye
03-23-2004, 04:24 PM
Aaaarrrrrghhhh!!!! Still not done but the engine is in.

To do list:
cooling system, steering, outdrive, shift, feul filter, some minor filleting, radio antena, running lights, fish finder and transducer, GPS, compass, feul fill and vent, bilge pump, throttle, registration, anchor cleat, adjustment of engine box, conection of gauges, and electrical system. I'm sick of my predictions not comming true so I'll set a final tentative launch date for sometime in the spring of '05.

longrod
03-23-2004, 08:01 PM
Hawkeye,
when I have my boat lauched and most of the bugs shaken out you are welcome to come up to the north shore and fish with me. Boats are BIG projects and I think might benefit from a Zen type approach. ( I am going to finish it if kills me! No deaths recorded ) Besides the neighbor who let me use their garage is getting itchy to have the space back.

Hopefully in time for the mid-June tides.
Or September is very good. but less predictable.
Keep plugging,
longrod

Hawkeye
03-28-2004, 07:32 PM
Well we shortened the list by a little this weekend by doing the following:
fuel filter, filleting, running lights, all the electronic devices minus mounting the transducer, registration, and the gauges. I'm just happy progress is being made. Besides we couldn't have gone out today anyway what with the 7 - 10 foot seas and a gale warning.

longrod
03-28-2004, 08:02 PM
Wow, You have been working hard and made some real progress.
I have made some progress but have been slowed by yet another injury, non boat related.
Casting Deck is in place.
Rail caps are on.
working slowly on anchor locker.
Trailer will be picked up in one to two weeks
Motor will be ready in three weeks.
We're almost there!!!!
++++

ps Keith how is your project going?

kjackson
03-28-2004, 11:46 PM
Thanks for asking, longrod. My project is in the "getting ready" stage, which means I've passed the "getting ready to get ready" stage. I've received all the epoxy goodies but the biaxial cloth for the bottom, I've got the plans and scaled them up, and I've almost got the space cleared. I also have some of the wood, but I need a bit more room to bring in the plywood. I need to do something about the roof as it does leak when it rains, and since I live on the wet side of Washington...

I will be starting the actual build the week after April 1, which I hope isn't prophetic.


Keith

Hawkeye
03-29-2004, 09:27 AM
Kieth,

Take lots of pics. It's a lot of fun to review and remember good and tough times. We've probably got 200 shots so far.

Longrod,

Congrats on your progress and sorry to hear about your injury. You are actually much closer than we are. Much of our boat's finishing work: sole, deck, center console, and engine box is only temporary and will need to be redone probably over the summer.

Hawkeye
04-05-2004, 10:36 AM
We got the outdrive and cooling system done. We keep blowing a $20 90 amp fuse which is holding up other progress.

John Desjardins
04-05-2004, 12:08 PM
"We keep blowing a $20 90 amp fuse" Ouch, something is connected to ground that shouldn't be.

Hawkeye
04-06-2004, 07:16 AM
Ayup. You got it nailed John it's just a problem of finding that missconnection in that massive "tangle" of wires. We do think we have it nailed down though and will try again. The tilt trim bars went in yesterday. One step at a time we are getting there it's just that we seem to be spraining an ankle with every step lately:chuckle:

John Desjardins
04-06-2004, 09:38 AM
Since your blowing a 90 amp fuse it's probably in some heavy gauge wire. If it were in 14-16 gauge wire you'd let the smoke out and the fault would become easy to find.

JimW
04-06-2004, 01:21 PM
It might be worth getting a $40 circuit breaker to diagnose the problem instead of toasting fuses.

Hawkeye
04-06-2004, 02:12 PM
I thought of the circuit breaker too but I can't see how to make the connection as it is in a wierd place. The other hang-up with that is that I can't find 90 amp circuit breaker - the closest I can get is 80 amp which would probably suffice.

longrod
04-06-2004, 10:01 PM
Best cure is go back and disconnect the largest current drawing connections.
Probably a motor. Is that fuse the main fuse on the battery? I am still learning the boat electrical system basics (another reason for a simple boat)
The last time I popped a breaker that size we hooked a 100 KV power supply backward. BIG spark!

Hawkeye
04-07-2004, 01:56 PM
It is the first fuse after the battery. The connection point between the battery and the starter. We think the problem is the altenator wires were switched.

Hawkeye
04-08-2004, 08:57 AM
Well we got the fuse problem figured out but she is still not turning over. Now it is just going over all the connections. We think it is the fuse panel at the center console that is the culprit. So close and yet so far!

OC
04-08-2004, 05:40 PM
Gregg,
What size wire is your battery cables and how far away from the battery is the fuse?

Under marine standards if I can remember right that fuse should be only a couple of feet from the battery.

I have 50 amp breakers on both the house battery and the start battery and they are on 2 feet #6 then 4 feet of #6 to starter.

I use all Blue Sea elec componants and those breakers if I can remember ran about 30 dollars each. They make a nice breaker just for battery wire to starter that screws into any bulked and takes up very little space. No hole cutting or box to have to put it in.

Hawkeye
04-09-2004, 07:55 AM
OC, The cables are much longer than you describe and I can't see how to shorten the distance with our current configuration.

In any case we got all the electrical figured out. The gauges work, the lights come on, and the biggie - the engine turns over. Now to connect the feul line and see if she starts!

juro
04-09-2004, 09:20 AM
May the force be with you!

I'm sure the Estey's will make it work.

OC
04-09-2004, 10:20 AM
Gregg,

It is an exciting day that day when you start the engine for the 1st time. It took me 5 years to get to that point and when she started I knew I was well on the way to my dream of sailing around the world.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing pictures of your custom built boat on the water and helping you catch fish.

Hawkeye
04-10-2004, 02:59 PM
She runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Gawd does she sound sweet!!!!!! We are very very very close now.

juro
04-10-2004, 05:40 PM
CONGRATS!

Hard-earned victory tastes sweeter!

Steelheader69
04-10-2004, 07:46 PM
When are we gonna see pics of the whole boat? Would be nice to see. I grew up building our own prams, DB's, and one Deep V for puget sound. My Dad never got more adventerous then that. LOL. But was fun learning from him building boats. But not sure I'd have the gumption with an endeavor as big as yours. That 19' deep V was enough. Almost killed my Dad and I (guess it doesn't help having 2 chiefs working together). :D

Congrats!!! Can't wait to see the whole project.

longrod
04-10-2004, 10:52 PM
So When do you launch?
My trial launch is set for May 15. Will try to post pictures prior to that.

craig
04-11-2004, 12:50 PM
Way to go guys, all the hard work has paid off! Congrats!

Hawkeye
04-12-2004, 09:02 AM
I don't know when the launch date will be. Experience has taught me that there always seems to be something that comes up to wrench up the plans. I've made so many god awfully wrong predictions that I have given up doing so. So all I will say is that we are verrrrry close and I will post pics when we do.

May 15th is great Longrod! We'll need pics from you as well!