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: Upcoming Great Lakes Spey Clave

01-19-2004, 06:17 PM
See below for information on the long anticipated Clave.


On the Muskegon River
Henning Park, Newaygo, Michigan

SATURDAY, MAY 8; 8:30 AM until DARK
SUNDAY, MAY 9; 9:00 AM---?

FEATURING ANDY MURRAY, courtesy of House of Hardy, England
And Great Lakes Fly Fishing, Rockford, Michigan


Andy Murray: Spey Casting and Fishing; Floating and Sinking Lines

Neil Houlding: Underhand Casting; Shooting Heads; Tube Fly Tying

Kevin Feenstra: Muskegon River Guide; Fishing the Muskegon with a Spey Rod

Fred Vargas: Spey Fly Tying



Dress for the weather: waders, raingear and eye protection. We will have grills available at the park, so bring your favorite barbeque food and drink.

For lodging and other information contact: glspeyclave@hotmail.com

01-20-2004, 09:43 AM
Hi Mark.
Can't wait.I hope your bringing the brats again.Do we need the canoe to cook them in!!!
Do we know how many guys are coming yet.

01-20-2004, 06:48 PM
Thanks for the email, mjyp. I'll be there and can bring a few different sticks depending on what you get set up. I don't know that there are other CND Steelhead Specialists around here yet, so I'll plan to bring that for sure. It likes the Mo' already.:devil:

01-20-2004, 06:52 PM
I should be able to make it too. Need any "supplies"?

01-20-2004, 07:54 PM
hello mark. wondering if the campground will be available to stay in? if the picnic tables did not get back to the sites they belonged on last spring, i may be barred!

maybe ron barche has put together a cane two hander for this year? his trout rods were certainly impressive, especialy with ty & juro casting.

thanks for everybodys efforts. more than willing to help out as well. SG

01-20-2004, 07:57 PM
I second the brats... man they were GOOD. It will be fun, really looking forward to it, planning looks positive and will confirm as soon as possible.

01-20-2004, 09:40 PM
Neil/Juro...I will be sure to bring extra sausage(I have seen the both of you eat:hehe:). I think we can get by without the canoe if need be.

Carl.. Rods would be a welcome addition.

Peter...That is a big YES to those supplies.

SG...The campground should be open, we are in the process of firming that up.

02-04-2004, 09:14 PM
Hello folks! Woodlander has contacted me as to our TU Chapter(KVCTU Kalamazoo Valley Chapter of TU) supplying the food for the upcoming Spey Clave at Henning Park. Am in the process now of getting info to the "board members"and see if we can do that for the Clave? Planning on getting some propane grills and doing brats, Polish Sausage, hamburgers, and hot dogs with all the necessary buns and condiments. Want to have a variety of chips and other snack paks as well as several coolers of a variety of soft drinks and bottled water plus, my mainstay, good, hot coffee. Now, please be aware that this is only tenative at this point, OK? It must meet with approval. I must ask..will there be any electricity (110v) available for the coffee pot(s)? Please advise me of any other things that we might be thinking of supplying as far as "eats" go in case I've overlooked some things. I am very optimistic that our TU Chapter will approve of this venture. Thanks to Woodlander for the asking. Best regards, Stiver ************************************************** **NOTE UPDATE: 02/13/' 04 KVCTU has declined the offer to provide the food for this Clave due to the conflict with Mothers' Day Weekend. So sorry, no can do this year. Best, Stiver:( :( :( :(

02-05-2004, 10:25 AM
Is anyone aware of the fact that is MOTHER'S DAY wkend! As to how that is an important wkend to most married men ( at least to stay on the good side of the wife if you spend a 100 days a yr on the water like I do), that might hurt attendence. Any chance of changing the date of the clave?

02-05-2004, 02:10 PM
Interesting point, those dates are carved in stone due to Andy Murrays attendance.

Good news is Saturday is not Mothers Day which makes it easier for all to attend.

Just seeing Andy cast is worth the trip.

Thanks for the heads up.

02-05-2004, 07:58 PM
Bring her she'll love it! :chuckle:

02-06-2004, 07:38 AM
It's not Wifes' Day, it's Mothers' Day. Many of us have elderly mothers who truly look forward to this event, and I don't mean by spending the time on the water. For those of us who would have to travel quite a distance, a one day event may not be worth it. As I've noted on another board, it is nearly impossible to pick a date that doesn't have a conflict. Last year, I believe, it was opening day of trout season in the area. However, I think it will be beneficial to avoid the MD weekend in 2005. Also, please remember the mjyp didn't set these dates.

02-06-2004, 06:42 PM
"hind sight is 20/20" where was the opposition when tentative dates were mentioned?

thankfully, i'm blessed with understanding females in my life. (at least for the most part, this will cost me in the end) SG

02-07-2004, 08:59 AM
Truth is, I don't remember Dan asking us for any imput on dates this year. Maybe he did and I missed it. For 2003 there was quite a bit of discussion about the best dates and, in fact, the dates were changed a couple of times. I think Dan picked these dates to avoid the circus of opening day of trout season without realizing it was Mothers' Day.

02-07-2004, 09:20 AM
For the record, those were the only days we could get Andy Murray. Pure and simple.

Tough choice, Spey Clave with Andy Murray or Spey Clave without. Not to mention Glenn was generous enough to cover Andy's expenses.

Which one would you choose??

Also Dan had nothing to do with bringing Andy on. It was through the dauntless efforts of Doug and Glenn. For that we owe them a big THANK YOU!!!! :)

02-07-2004, 09:35 AM
Any chance of doing three days? That way people could play hooky on Friday and get two days, those who are free men ;) could attend Sunday as well.

Just a suggestion. BTW - all this talk about brots had me running to the store to get some yesterday :hehe:

02-07-2004, 10:04 AM
I think Andy is coming into town on Thursday. Glenn is supposed to be holding a Spey casting class with Andy being the instructor.

I am 99% sure the classes will be held on Friday and or Monday. Possibly both days, with a beginners class on one day and an advanced class on the other.

Once more is know I'll post.

As always please feel free to e-mail glspeyclave@hotmail.com for any off-line questions.


03-03-2004, 10:38 AM
One of our Forum sponsors Robert Meiser will be providing the following demo rods;

1. 13' ~ 3 pc for 5/6

2. 13' ~ 3 pc for 6/7

3. 13'6" ~ FES 7/8 4 pc.

4. 12'6" ~ for 7/8 4 pc.

5. ??? Maybe....15' for 9/10 ~ 5 pc.

6. S2H106 switch rod for 8/9 wt.

Bob also mentioned a couple of surprise additions may be making an appearance.

Get ready for some of the sweetest casting rods to come down the road.

A big THANK YOU goes out to the Meiz man.:D :D

04-23-2004, 11:03 AM
Great Lakes Fly Fishing Co. will be putting on two class's featuring Andy Murray, House of Hardy as the instructor. The cost of the class is $ 50 .00

Beginners class runs from 9 to 12 am the Intermediate class is from 2 to 5 pm on Friday the 7th of May. Each class is open to only 8 students, it will be held at Henning Park in Newaygo, contact Great Lakes Fly Fishing Co. @ 1-800-303-0567 for more details.

04-23-2004, 04:39 PM
I did call to sign up for the intermediate class, though Andy will probably tell me I've overstated my case (I'm a long-standing member of the Sucky Caster Club). I hope to see others of you there!

If you call to sign up for the class, please ask the folks at Great Lakes to become a sponsor of this site, as their sponsorship of the clave shows they have some interest in supporting speyfishing--and the midwest membership of this forum is growing. I did ask, and Ty said he's been discussing this with Glen (owner).


04-27-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Carl
Andy will probably tell me I've overstated my case (I'm a long-standing member of the Sucky Caster Club

Carl, don't be so hard on yourself... I must be in the REALLY Sucky Caster Club!!!:hehe:

04-29-2004, 08:17 AM
We have a special surprise for all Clave attendees.

There will be an R. B. Meiser two hander available for auction. If any of you are familiar with his rods, you know how great they are.

A big Thank You goes out to Bob for allowing us to do this.

Bob you are the best!!!! :)

(Bob will be following up with rod details)

The auction will be run e-bay like; the winner will be the person who bid $1.00 over the second highest bid. This will be a silent auction; bid sheets and place to deposit bids will be provided on day of clave.

This will be a cash only auction so please be sure to bring plenty of folding money.

Once again Thank You Bob for your generosity.

04-29-2004, 10:43 AM
I have one of Bob's demos at present (11'6" 5/6/7 fast progressive) and will bring it along. Do you know what rod Bob is donating? I have yet to see a rod of his that I didn't like.


04-29-2004, 03:04 PM

See Bob's post in the Claves/Gatherings section.

04-30-2004, 08:02 AM
Auction follow-up

I forgot to add the end of Auction will be 12pm on day one of the clave.

This will allow us all to head home for Mother's Day if need be.


05-02-2004, 05:20 PM
for the afternoon class on Friday.

I stopped by GLFFC this morning and put my name on the list. There were still openings for both classes.

They are forecasting warm weather for the weekend.