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: Wooly bugger (or worm) swap


John Desjardins
01-05-2004, 03:36 PM
At some point in time almost all freshwater fisherman use one of these patterns. They are simple to tie and effective. Yet almost everyone ties them differently.

How about it, is anyone interested in a wooly bugger swap?

SDHflyfisher
01-05-2004, 04:30 PM
sure
now i have two more swaps to tie for

dewey
01-05-2004, 09:27 PM
you could count me in, love the buggers.

fredaevans
01-06-2004, 06:59 AM
Keep 'us' posted on the how many, when, and where.
fae

John Desjardins
01-06-2004, 08:46 AM
Great there is interest. For a due date how does February 14'th sound? I think there will be more people interested in this one so I'll set number of flys tied at seven. One fly will go to an auction to support the site and each participant will get six randomly assorted flys back. I'll Pm everyone my address next week.

SDHflyfisher
01-06-2004, 09:26 PM
crap i already tied too many i tied ten earlier today figuring that there would be a few more people
i'll still send seven though i need some more of what i tied anyway
7 it is

SDHflyfisher
01-06-2004, 09:29 PM
john i should have the midge flies out by then so i'll send my buggers with the midges if that is OK with you

John Desjardins
01-07-2004, 08:35 AM
Sean, that will work fine. Please include a couple of stamps to send back the buggers.

SDHflyfisher
01-07-2004, 03:33 PM
will do

fredaevans
01-07-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by SDHflyfisher
crap i already tied too many i tied ten earlier today figuring that there would be a few more people
i'll still send seven though i need some more of what i tied anyway
7 it is

Actually, GOOD POINT for all. Re-mailing these can get a tad 'pricy' so toss in a couple of bucks to cover the 're-mail' cost.

fae

SDHflyfisher
01-07-2004, 08:07 PM
too late i already put them inmy fly box just some brown buggers in size 4 with flash chennele (i never spell that right)

FrenchCreek
01-07-2004, 08:24 PM
I'm in, for 6 flies.
Is this 6 W/buggers + 6 Bombers (as in deer hair Bombers?)

SDHflyfisher
01-07-2004, 08:42 PM
ask john i don't know what he means by bombers
and it is 7 remember the auction fly
that's not a bad idea with the bombers though i have never tied one would love to give them a try and see others creations

John Desjardins
01-07-2004, 09:43 PM
Good catch Pete. I meant wooly worms and my fingers typed bomber.

FrenchCreek
01-08-2004, 10:18 AM
So for me that means;
Wooly buggers; they have long(er) and bushier tails and longer bodies..
Wooly worms; they are shorter wooly buggers without tails or with a very short and thin tail ?

This has always been a matter of debate with many others, so it would be interesting to hear what others have to say.
I've always wondered what to call a:
"bead headed or spun deer head or no particular head, rubberlegged or no legs, soft hackled or stiff hackled or reverse palmered forward bent hackle, dubbed body or chenille wrap, marabou tailed with or without Crystal Flash, with or without weighting", wooly something?

Anyway, I'll send some patterns that work for me and leave it to others to determine what they are!

John Desjardins
01-13-2004, 11:02 AM
Pete this is my definition
Buggers - 2 1/2 hook gape's or longer whispy tail of maribou or similiar material. Worm: short, less than hook gape, stiff tail of yarn or similiar material.

I'd call it a wooly bugger variant.

John Desjardins
01-13-2004, 11:05 AM
I'm forgetting to do my meistering duties.

In this swap are the following people.

SDHFlyFisher
Dewey
Fred Evans
FrenchCreek
and Myself

Any one else interested. These are easy flies to tie so don't be shy if your a beginner.

fredaevans
01-13-2004, 11:34 AM
where areeeee yooooooou?
fae

FrenchCreek
01-13-2004, 02:25 PM
So i'm tying 12 flies, 6 buggers and 6 worms, 5 for the swap and one for the auction.

John Desjardins
01-13-2004, 02:33 PM
Pete, you don't need to tie both. One or the other is fine. And as you stated six flys total .

John Desjardins
01-23-2004, 08:00 AM
Bringing this back to the top. I'm sending out the address today so its time to get tying.

fredaevans
01-23-2004, 11:11 AM
single malt and get to work this weekend!
:D :devil:

FrenchCreek
01-23-2004, 06:39 PM
Will send tomorrow! see Archive for pattern

fredaevans
01-23-2004, 08:59 PM
What can we "St. Boniface/Winnipeg Guys" say.

One up on your side.
:smokin:

Forgot to ask: with, or without, single malt?
:D
Fred

FrenchCreek
01-24-2004, 12:13 PM
Fred,
Holy Peat Water is the norm!
I'll bring some to the Feb.14-15 Clave and hope to meet up with you folks down there.
I also use this pattern in the early spring, some are tied with a black Bead head or a small black Cone head to help sink it and to have it "nosing" in slower water/pools.

John Desjardins
01-29-2004, 06:17 PM
Seans flies arrived today. They look great.

SDHflyfisher
01-29-2004, 07:55 PM
good to hear that the flies made it

fredaevans
01-29-2004, 10:38 PM
Holy Peat Water is the norm!
I'll bring some to the Feb.14-15 Clave and hope to meet up with you folks down there. "

:smokin:

On that topic: "Dad," Joan's father brought up a couple of bottles of " Finlaggan Islay single malt "old reserve."

Very nice!! Not aware of this elix. of life before. Knowledge?

FrenchCreek
01-30-2004, 11:36 AM
Fred, Ive not heard about this single malt Islay but i'll look around the local shops for it.:devil:

John Desjardins
02-02-2004, 10:37 AM
Less than 2 weeks till the due date. So far I have flys from SDHFlyfisher & myself.

John Desjardins
02-02-2004, 08:01 PM
Petes arrived today, and they look great.

John Desjardins
02-10-2004, 11:35 AM
The due date is fast approaching. PM me if you need my address.

dewey
02-10-2004, 02:31 PM
Mine are in the mail.
Looking forward to see all of the variations on my favorite fly.

Does anyone fish these in the Salt?

John Desjardins
02-10-2004, 03:02 PM
Dewey I'll look for them. Fred's may be a few days late due to the mails so it may take a week or two for me to get them back to everyone.

I haven't heard much about Buggers being used in the salt. It's a topic worthy of posting on the striper board.

SDHflyfisher
02-20-2004, 06:32 PM
so what's the news have all of the flies shown up yet

John Desjardins
02-20-2004, 08:20 PM
Still waiting on Freds flys. The mails are taking a long time lately.

fredaevans
02-27-2004, 11:33 AM
at one time. Mine are done (looking rather cool I might add... a black shrimp done up ala' wooly bugger.

Will post them by Monday at the latest.
fae

John Desjardins
03-03-2004, 08:11 PM
Freds flys were in todays mail. Nice and totally different from anything else in the swap. Pictures tomorrow & the flys will be out by Saturday am at the latest.

SDHflyfisher
03-03-2004, 08:33 PM
that's great

John Desjardins
03-05-2004, 10:47 AM
I screwed up the number of flys in this swap and got more than needed from everyone. So you will also get a bucktail streamer of mine in the package. All extra flys will go to suport the forum.

Everything is packaged and ready to ship I just need to verify a couple of addresses and they will go out.

fredaevans
03-05-2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by John Desjardins
Freds flys were in todays mail. Nice and totally different from anything else in the swap.

"Totally Different????" As a mortgage banker and chaser of the elusive Steelhead one 'learns to think out side the box.':hehe:

Actually, it's been an interesting 'year' so far; only fish I've hooked were on one weekend trip over to the Chetco. Several short trips here on the Rogue and I've had a 'couple of plucks' and that's been it so far.

Darned fish have been (until just the past few days) spread out and holding below Gold Rae Dam north of Medford. Gather the last two shots of rain we've had have finalllllly started pulling these buggers over the dam in numbers and into the upper river. Winter run fishing in March and April should be very interesting around here.

SDHflyfisher
03-08-2004, 03:41 PM
got the flies

thanks john