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: Juro Is At It Again

08-17-2003, 08:37 PM
;) :hehe:

08-18-2003, 06:12 PM
Big rod, little river

08-18-2003, 08:28 PM
There are no rivers left on the OP. :rolleyes: :(

08-18-2003, 10:44 PM
Cowlitz a little river? I sure can't reach the other bank!

08-18-2003, 10:49 PM
Rich Simms
President of SAS (Steelheaders Against Spey)

...and I am sure OC is the VP. :hehe:

08-18-2003, 10:58 PM
Dude, did you hit a fish after I left???

08-18-2003, 11:12 PM
Oh my dear Sparky, that was a wrong answer. OC has recently been seen practicing his doublespey with a single handed rod and I have good intel that he will be swinging a long rod for the upcoming winter/spring season.

Rich may not look much like Daniel Day-Lewis but he could be the last of the Mohicans. (Ok that was not factually accurate as Russell Means played the LOTM and come to think of it, Rich does look like him :D )

08-18-2003, 11:28 PM
Aw come on Juro, just a good double haul and you can kiss the other bank :razz:

Sink, I guess I will go along with the old Jackson Browne album - Hold on, hold out, sooner or latter the single hander will come back, for now I'll enjoy being the novelty act:hehe:

08-18-2003, 11:48 PM
Steep banks covered with brush 20 feet behind. Fierce upriver wind on the strong shoulder. Boily water in front of you; 80 ft 75-80 degree cast required to get the fly to swim through the seam. Type 8 or so @ 15 foot sinktip, large fly. Run is 100 yards long. That's not going to be fun with the single hand stick.

I do fish single-handers all the time in other fisheries, it's just that the two-hander is IMHO a superior tool for river fishing and I love the way learning new casting techniques revives the discovery in steelhead fishing with the fly.

The way I figure it, every day not spent spey casting is another day squandered when you could've learned it better! ;)

08-19-2003, 04:39 PM

Is that Juro's Has a Pet Steelhead.
Seems to me that when he came out for the Sandy that he caught on fish out of the Same run???????????????????????????

I wonder if something is fishey?

:D :eyecrazy:

08-19-2003, 10:25 PM

Me thinks that some folk done got their geography a might messed up. I was unaware that the Cowlitz was on the OP, unless 'un of course the river was transplanted by a good 'ol earthquake. Seems ta' me that da' Cowlitz is south of the OP and that it flows out of the Cascades into the lower Columbia.

Doublespey and Sean, no wonder the two of you didn't find a fish, you were fishing on the wrong OP.

08-19-2003, 10:45 PM
Oh I was on the Cow due south from here...and yes I found fish:devil:


08-19-2003, 11:42 PM
I snapped a couple photos of Juro in the process of casting and low and behold, this one came out to look like he was fighting a fish! :devil: :razz: :smokin:

09-10-2003, 07:25 PM
Sean ... did you just "Dude" Juro? ;)


It was nice to finally meet you at the AFFTA show. Those were some "Saaweeeet..." rods you were demonstrating. Too bad I'm such a crummy spey caster. Next year they need to get the spey pool back. You poor guys were contending with way too many single handers. See you next year.


09-10-2003, 07:55 PM
John -

Pleasure was all mine DUDE! ;)

Glad we got to hang out. I hope we can get out on the water one of these days. Maybe you can come on out to striper land or I can get down to White River. Another option would be to go do steelhead in the PNW or salmon in the maritimes or Europe.

Let me know when you're attending a show, next time let's hook up for at least a beer if not a local stream sortie.

Ryan, et. al. -

Yes, it seems my long streak (8 years!) of coming back to my home waters and hooking steelhead has ended, although I did make the connection this May before the Sandy Clave.

I'd either blew my mojo out on Sekiu where I hooked four salmon in about four hours of actual fishing time (on the boat with Neal and Calvin) or it was the fateful mistake of giving Leland my killer summer run fly, which he aptly named for me (the "creeper") after I'd been waffling about it's name for over a decade. All I know is since I gave him that pattern there's nothing but sloppy seconds by the time I arrive :devil: ;) ;)

It was a pleasure coming back to my home waters, and my daughter had a wonderful reunion with her childhood buddies.

Maybe next time I can start a new streak! :smokin:

09-12-2003, 12:23 AM

even without the Spey pond did you get a chance to cast the new Specialists? They were awesome! I had the chance to spend a couple hours in the booth as I was in Denver.

Juro, what info can you give on the "Steelhead and Skagit" models? I'd love to spend sometime on the river really giving these rods a workout.


09-12-2003, 06:05 AM
Andre et. al. -

I am working on the site update, sorry about the delay. Here is some of the copy I am working on...

The Steelhead Specialist is a 14' 4" 8/9/10 version of the upper echalon series in the CND line. When you consider how light the Salar (15' 6") and Thompson (16' 7") Specialists are for their overall mass and power, you'll get an idea of what happens when you bring this aerospace material down to 14' 4".

During field tests expert casters have been able to throw the extended belly lines well into the backing with it, and at the show it received some glowing reviews from retailers and even friendly competitors who asked us not to sell it in their territories, with a smile of course.

This is the rod that the head of Patagonia chose for his personal use.

The Skagit Caster is a 13' 8" 9wt, a design born from influences of guys like Marlow Bumpus, Ed Ward and Mike Kinney on the Skagit about the time of the February Seattle fly show, and the ensuing line designs coming from the Skagit guys which were at the Sandy Clave, etc.

The first reaction you get is from it's feather lightness, yet this top modulus material and classic taper say "spey" as soon as you wiggle it. It's also a powerful rod designed primarily to carry winter sinktips on shorter spey heads, loading fully but with a strong punch to lift perry pokes and Skagit style casts with minimal effort.

At 13' 8" it's also very versatile for other uses, windcutters, midspeys, smaller rivers, summer run and fishing your side of the river in winter.

Final pricing will be announced on the site shortly. I'll let you know when it's completed.

09-12-2003, 09:25 AM

From the casting I did on the pond these rods were awesome. I spent the more time with the Steelhead Specialist and have never felt a 14'ish rod that with so much power and reserve power with a smooth traditional taper. I think you will quickly see the steelhead specialist vaulted to "best of" line the line /weight in that range. Anyone looking to get into the 14' rod length should look at these.



09-12-2003, 10:05 AM

You are right about the reserve power of the 14'4" Steelhead Specialist. When a small group of us were casting the rod on the Snoqualmie in July, we at first treated it as a "regular" 14'-type rod and were using various lines from Skagit types and mid-speys through to the Airflo Traditional - all very nice. Then one of us decided to try the 9/10 GrandSpey... I know I winced at the thought - this is the same line I use on the Thompson Specialist. At first we were very tentative, but the Steelhead Specialist did not even hesitate! Soon we were shooting the entire head well out into the backing!

Now I would not recommend such a heavy line for the rod. However, the point is that it has incredible "reserve power", which of course is the result of its progressive action, as you put more of a load on it it flexes deeper into the blank and transfers it into the cast. It is impressive.

My comment to Nobuo was that this just might be the "all-round" rod of the Specialist Series. It is feather light and is sweet to fish lighter lines (short, mid and extended bellies) on smaller streams as well as the occasional sortie onto really big waters with long casts and big fish. I knew that day that this would be an extremely popular rod.

10-08-2003, 11:57 PM
When I saw the photo, I said to myself that it didn't look like much of bend for a fish that was in heavy water like that. But then some guys baby the hell out of their fish (not a sporting thing to do).
Then I find out it is just the normal bend from a line in the water. Jeeesh! What a fool I am. I guess it is because I wanted the guy to have a fish on.
Dreams. All I get are dreams.
Bob, the Dreamer:D :D :D
p.s. I live on the O.P. and no, there is no Cowlitz here. Wish there were. That's maybe Washington's best river for planted fish.:)