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06-18-2003, 06:52 AM
Please support our sponsors who are on this board and offer guide service. I have some opinions on other guides particularly on the cape. So if you need advise or opinions on others who are not listed herein, please contact by e-mail or PM and I will share my thoughts on abilities , personalities and flexibilities.

06-18-2003, 01:51 PM
John, Thank's for the offer to both support our sponsors and also provide some "local" knowledge. I for one, rely on local expertise to best select a guide that "fits" my expectations. Your offer, with no vested interest in the shop/guide/outfitter is invaluable.

06-18-2003, 02:22 PM
Thanks Pete, I have some good recommendations without any self interest and ,in fact ,have one or two to avoid.

06-18-2003, 03:15 PM
Care to elaborate? :devil:

06-18-2003, 04:20 PM
Related question:

I guide on Cape Cod, have been for several years. In fact more and more since my dot-com dayjob dried up. I was thinking about becoming a Forum sponsor in order to be able to have a banner. Would that be too weird or would everyone be OK with that?

06-18-2003, 06:16 PM
I hope this does not sound too commercial but have a guide service and I am a forum sponser(and Juro built the website) and I would simply like to say I would be more than happy to have any prospective client give me a call and just discuss what they are looking for in their day on the water. In other words PLEASE feel free to "interview" me.

Capt. Dave Sanderson

PS- North side flats on fire! Big fish Tuesday, schoolie fest today.

06-18-2003, 06:29 PM were on the top of my list.... aside from the sponsors there is George Ryan, the guys at Orvis, Harry(Harry is a sponsor)..Tony S. In Orleans, to name a few, Dan Marini and Randy Jones as well. There are also combo shore and boat guys. I will be doing a list and include those I know whom I would recommend. I will keep to PM's and e-mails anyway on specifics. Maturity level is also important apart from the usual knowlege that goes with it. There is one I will not recommend and you can e-mail me on that with reasons. Also.If anyone can share information on some unknown guys who are good...good all around with out other fishing commercial interests please let me know .I want to do a run down and post these after I get more feed back and do an article to submit to some of the Magazine connections I have made this year.

06-18-2003, 06:33 PM
edavids.. as a Sponsor I am glad you have posted and your thoughts are always welcome. I wanted to seek out some who are also not sponsors. There are a lot of articles on the good points and bad points of guides..but I would like to do Cape Cod and search out the cream...not just from my point of view , but from others as well. Cost is also a factor. So it's not just finding the fish but the total experience. Fo example...No guide is worth a $1000 (plus or Minus) and trying to sell things is also a no no in my book...Diversity and flexability are things to consider... things like that should be known BEFORE someone is signed up..So, If anyone on the Forum wants to help me with this I think it would be worth while. Afterall the consumer should participate and we just don't have this type of study. More to come.....Remember , it's just fishing, not some philosophical out of body experience.

06-18-2003, 06:57 PM
Well that was fast..JFbasser just sent me a recommendation. I have asked him to get more info on the guy...but I have not heard about this guide... That;s what i am looking this process should be good. The sponsors will be part of this study and will also be referenced on the Forum. I may even get opinions from the other boards as well. This will help the public, the guides and the Forum.

06-18-2003, 07:22 PM
And some solid ABUSE early in the morning to set the tone for a long day under a sadomosachistic guide's wing (foot)...

Any suggestions?!:devil:

06-18-2003, 07:26 PM
Hell...Pete...I can do that.

Name the time and place.

I promise to bring your favorite whip. :eek:

Originally posted by Penguin
And some solid ABUSE early in the morning to set the tone for a long day under a sadomosachistic guide's wing (foot)...

Any suggestions?!:devil:

06-18-2003, 07:28 PM

Any Saturday works for me...

06-18-2003, 07:32 PM
Well... that's a great start... I think we will end up with tons of information.

06-19-2003, 04:58 AM
PM is full again. Sent email. Did it work?

06-19-2003, 07:25 AM

It would be the ultimate in irony if you were not able to have a banner on the site simply because some Forum members did not want to confuse your role here.

I am all for seeing a Juro banner ad.


06-19-2003, 09:36 AM
Here, here on the Juro Banner Ad. Me thinks he has also contributed enough to not have to pay for it either.

06-19-2003, 10:06 AM
All thumbs up on the Juro Banner ad. The time and effort (and I suspect significant out of pocket costs) Juro has put into this site should easily cover the cost of a banner sponsorship for, oh I don't know, the next bazillion years.

06-19-2003, 11:04 AM
I am all for Juro putting up a banner. He certainly has paid his dues and I appreciated his efforts with the Big Brothers, says alot about him. Stiblue mentioned George with Fishing the Cape. I have used George Ryan, with Fishing the Cape, and found him to be excellent, also.
Tight lines

06-19-2003, 11:12 AM
Thanks guys, but any such agreement would require payment or barter just like anyone else. We have no other shore guides on board in the area so I am not competing with anyone who is currently a sponsor.

Dave Pearson and I work together for groups of 4 or more and share over-bookings and insights so we would split the tab, no worries it's an easy rate to cover even for fishing bums.

Our ads are too cheap! :devil:

06-19-2003, 03:26 PM
Yes.. banner it... also Dave Peirson is a great shore Guide.

06-19-2003, 04:22 PM
So perhaps we could do an auction for four people to split, all proceeds go to the forum. Dave and I draw straws to see who we take and there is a two-fly ante from each participant including Dave and I in the pot for the biggest fish from the four participants (of course Dave and I do not fish). So someone gets a dozen flies for getting lucky. That way the outing is cheap for all and it raises the fund raising to the full requirement for a 'real' sponsorship fee.

06-19-2003, 06:30 PM

I'm only available on Saturtdays and will provide my own MRE shore lunch...

06-20-2003, 08:42 PM
If this guided shore trip with Juro and Dave is up for auction then I'll bid $300 and corral the Penguin in with my posse.

In the very least maybe that is enough motivation to kick off a formal auction...

06-27-2003, 03:55 PM
What does it take to make a go of this? I'll bid $320 and include Mike and Pete in my crew, though I'm leary of breaking bread with someone who favors MRE's. Uncle Pete: what is an MRE???

06-27-2003, 04:49 PM
C'mon down so I can introduce you to a phew of my striped pals on the BaySide...

06-27-2003, 06:48 PM
I've fished with Mark, Mike, Seuss, and Pete but forgot about Shirley. If we can talk her into swapping the heels for boat shoes, what are the odds on taking her out on the boat? Keeping in mind that she doesn't fly fish, she is low maint. with spinning gear. That and every time you call you seem to spend more time talking to my sons mother than me so I figured you should put a face to the voice. I've experienced your brand of hospitality before so the only way we could pull this off is if we can take you all to dinner. Your choice. Jim and Shirl..........

06-27-2003, 07:16 PM
Ooops just saw this. Thanks for the generous offer!

The original proposal was to split the trip four ways with both Dave Pearson and I providing flies and insights to stake outs on the flat... do you want to pull in another victim I mean participant and go for the double? Up to you.

Thanks again!

06-27-2003, 07:51 PM
Jim...Bring Shirley! When I've got a boat full, I tend to do spin myself...You can always try a short notice, a sleep-over, or make plans for a certain moon-phase or whatever! If we can do a BeachNinja shore assault one day and das boat the next, that would certainly maximize your FarSide (of the canal) sortie.
Standing by to stand by...:D

07-03-2003, 07:54 AM
Sorry, but each time I read BeachNinja-something, I imagine Juro slinking around the flats in split-toed wading slippers, his flats cap flap drawn across his face, his two-handed rod slung across his back in a black bamboo sheath, and his flies in a little throwing star pouch.......

Here's a sneak peek at conclusion of Juro's new book, 'Zen in the Art of Summer Strippers.'

Master: "Do you now understand that 'It' casts the rod and 'It' hits the target?"
Pupil: "is it 'I' who loads the rod, or is it the rod that draws me into the state of highest tension to fall like snow from a bamboo leaf? Is 'It' spiritual when seen by the eyes of the body, and corporeal when seen by the eyes of the spirit, or both, or neither? For after years of study, as soon as I take the rod and cast, everything becomes so clear and straightforward and so ridiculously simple."
Master: "Now, at last, the fly line has cut right through you. The angler and the fish are no longer two opposing objects, but are one reality."

Hey, maybe a signed copy should go to whomever catches the biggest fish of the donated tripů... 8~)

07-03-2003, 08:06 AM
...When you can deliver the fly at the speed of light...
You will have arrived at the J buoy!

'waitin' for the movie...;)

07-03-2003, 09:15 AM
'Zen in the Art of Summer Strippers.'

STRIPPERS?!? :devil:

Flashback: When I was young and first visited a house of burlesque, I was more intrigued by the waitress who conceals her mystique behind a veil than those flaunting their features. Likewise, the striper often looks for the unpainted paper as well as the ink to see it's prey among the refracting light dancing on the sands that line the flats.

We see with our minds, not just our eyes. When you can see them with eyes closed, you may leave the temple.

But for now repeat after me... "is that a FISH?" "is that a FISH?" "is that...."


07-03-2003, 10:20 AM
Insightful analogy. A couple of weeks ago I introduced my son, Chris, to sightfishing on the flats. We stationed ourselves on a flat next to a bowl as the tide began to flood. The sun was on our left shoulder, slight ripple on the water, and the fish would move right to left. Not ideal, but acceptable conditions. Down the flat to our right was Dennis Kelly (Rooster) hooked up. He yells to Chris the pod is coming his way. Chris can't see them; although he has 20/10 vision. This happens again and his frustration level rises. All he can do is dwell on the negatives - too much wind, sun in the wrong plane, waders leak, etc. Rooster then motions Chris to move toward him. He spooks a head-on single. He sees the flash, the profile and the shadow. Bingo! The light comes on. Later, he sees the fish, makes the cast, strips and it eats.

The next day on the flats, his observation powers were spot on. "Is that a fish?"