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steelheadmike
05-07-2003, 08:44 AM
Well it looks as if the Hudon River down in my area is over and done with. Yanking the boat this week for a good scrub and shine to get her ready for LI Sound and RI. Maybe even MA.

Wes
05-07-2003, 10:03 AM
Saw some fair reports for Newburgh from Sunday, think it's passed there too? A friend is thinking things might really pick up this weekend up north.

steelheadmike
05-07-2003, 10:20 AM
I was thinking about heading up there myself. The only problem is thats full contact fishing up that way. Lots of traffic in tight quarters. We shall see what the story is come the weekend.

Gonna check tonight to see if anything is brewing out by me.

Heading out tonight?

juro
05-07-2003, 10:34 AM
I'm sorry to hear that... but.... YEEHAH!!!

I'm anxious to have them up this way, to put it mildly. Thanks for keeping us psyched in the meantime.

steelheadmike
05-07-2003, 10:58 AM
The fish up north on the Hudson should be heading back out in about a week or so. Start cleaning your reels and dressing those lines. It wont be long.

Wes
05-07-2003, 12:40 PM
Mike, I may head over there tonight, haven't checked the weather yet. Nobody else has been on the water in the dark but I stay around Dennings, they're moving barges on the Newburgh side down by Plum Pt.

Hope to make a few a little smarter before they head your way Juro.

steelheadmike
05-08-2003, 08:34 AM
Took a ride down to Tellers. Lots of Gulls working the bay. Found fish scattered throughout the bay. Picked up two on light spin gear. Moved a huge fish in 3ft of water. The boil that came behind the lure was gigantic! Must have went 3ft across. Looks like the Alwief are in heavy in that area now. Gulls where picking them off the surface. I think I missed some great action just before I got there. Lots of dead Saw Bellies and lots of Gulls sitting on the water. Makes me wonder what happened and hour or two earlier.... Blitz maybe? Only the fish Gods know for sure.

Wes
05-08-2003, 10:25 AM
Sure sounds like something wild happened there. I stayed local, I could yak with a buddy and weather looked dicey. Was slow but managed a 36 incher on a fly, my best on a fly so far. Maybe this weekend things go nuts on the Hudson.

steelheadmike
05-08-2003, 11:58 AM
Nothing to sneeze at Wes. Hopefully it will give soon. These weather fronts are definately playing a role in the activity.

Wes
05-08-2003, 12:31 PM
Mike,
It's starting to happen pretty quick in W CT, bunker in Bpt and NH harbors, probably others.

steelheadmike
05-08-2003, 01:29 PM
I got a few reports of fish in the Norwlak / Fairfield area over the past week. Nothing to get excited about but a few rats,weasels,runts,shorts,peanuts,dinks or whatever else you wish to call them.

Wes
05-08-2003, 01:53 PM
So now you have a first hand report of a 36 incher in CT. ;) Weather always a factor but a few better fish in last couple days Stmfd-Whvn. Heard abt a 22lber.

steelheadmike
05-08-2003, 04:01 PM
Good deal. The boat is coming out next week. I will clean it up and get her ready. So when do ya wanna meet in Norwalk?

Bob Creeden
05-08-2003, 05:14 PM
Mike, It might be over below the salt line, but it is just starting up here. The fish finders are showing fish all over the place in the Catskill to Albany (40 Mile) stretch. Lots of herring and lots of shad too. Trouble is the water temperatures are 54 on the surface and 45 below 12 feet. The stripers are not feeding and definately not spawning. I predict that major spawning activity will not begin until May 20th. The fish need 58 degree water to trigger the spawn and 62 degree water to hit their maximum spawning activity. After that, they will slide by Croton Point and on to the Sound and southern New England.

I think your right about Croton Point, but way off on the rest o fthe river. Some fish spawn in your area on the south side of Croton Point. All the rest (4-7 million fish) spawn north of West Point and all the way to Troy.

The historical spawning data in the upper tidal region - Saugerties to Albany shows the 3rd week of May as the most active week for years and years. With the cold spring rains and the late winter we just experienced, I'm thinkin the last week of May will be the week this year.

Wes - not this weekend but next weekend (5/16-18) should be a target date. The tides are right for high in the dark am hours and dropping through mid morning.

I was out today and saw many fish on the F-Finder. At least 30 anglers and no fish taken. My boat partner had a take on a live lined herring, but the fish took and spit it out quickly.

I'm heading out tomorrow and Sat, Sunday, Mon. etc. until I get these rascals warmed up to bite! We had overcast skys, on and off rain and cool weather. Tomorrow might be a little better. Sun in AM rain in PM.

"Ya gotta beleive!"

:D

Wes
05-08-2003, 06:47 PM
Funny how these conversations migrate from one board to the next. W/E of 17/18 probably Hudson days for me. I think Norwalks should be steaming around first week of June, maybe 2nd week, but I don't have the experience to corraborate that. I usually end up someplace else, fish are everywhere in the Sound. Thru at least the end of May we'll also be hammering them up in skinny water where you can't take yr boat in the upper Housy. If bunker are around I figure they won't ditch until W Sound gets too shiggy.

steelheadmike
05-09-2003, 08:22 AM
Your right the Sound should be procucing good numbers by first week of June. Maybe a tad earlier. If interested give me a hollar and we could meet up at Norwalk Harbor and sight fish the flats around the Islands. The boat should be all cleaned up, waxed and polished by then. Even if it isn't........ fish dont seem to mind a dirty boat.

steelheadmike
05-09-2003, 09:54 AM
Bob,

Oh I know that 90-100% of the fish spawn north of Croton. Never said they didnt. Actually very little if any spawn at Croton. That area is just a holding spot for the non spawners.. maybe a few of spawinging age but for the most part they range from 4-15lbs. The bulk of the fish are there in January warming themselves on the mud flats inside Tellers and up by Potato Rock on the mussel beds. They also show there because Herring run the Croton River and they wait at the mouth looking for an easy meal. Most years they run right up after them. This year was a bust up in the Croton ( always next year ).

Very rarely will I head up north for the big ones. I prefer to fish the brackish waters. My take on the fish when they hit the fresh water is thier metabolism slows and they are less likely to feed aggressively. I'm not saying they dont feed I'm just saying they slow down. Take a look at the # of fish by Troy ..... schools in the 100's of thousands maybe even Millions. Now take a look at the catch ratio. Given the number of boats and shore fisherman very few fish are taken. They get picky and get lock jaw. Though the idea of landing a 50lb fish is very tempting, I figure down by the salt line when they are fresh from the sea gives me a slightly better edge becuase they are still pretty agressive. ( aggressive is a loose term, they get lockjaw here too )

This year was FANTASTIC in early March and lots of fish taken on bait within the last month but nothing huge . The biggest I heard of was a 35lbs coming from Piermont. Big yes but nothing like what a chosen few of you guys up north catch.

Good luck when you go. You may see me up by Newburgh this weekend. Not sure yet though. In any case hope you are one of the lucky ones thats puts a fish over 45lbs in the boat. I will cross my fingers for ya.

Bob Creeden
05-09-2003, 05:48 PM
Good luck!

As soon as the spawners leave, I'll be heading for Narragansett Bay and Chatham on the Cape to keep my striper habit alive and well.

Bob

Wes
05-10-2003, 01:54 AM
Fishing is suddenly good here. And I hear they're in Narragansett now, today. I think this might be the best year we've seen in a few years. The odds of a 35+ lb fish are probably much smaller than the Hudson though. I should have one day left for the Rver, got so much time invested already this year.

Bob Creeden
05-10-2003, 05:13 PM
Gentlemen,

The pick is still slow, but quality is not> A North Carolina native picked up a new NY State Inland record while fishing with Capt. Ron Zelinski on Friday. A solid 55 Pound fish 48.5-inches long. It beats the old record by 10-ounces.

Chunk herring just north of Kingston and not that far from the Eopus Flats.

Lions & Tigers and bears, Oh MY!:eyecrazy: :hehe: :smokin:

I FISHED ALL DAY AND CAME UP WITH TWO CHANNEL CATFISH!

No one within my line o sight connected with anything. 5 bnoats 10 shore anglers. I'm getting out in the dark tomorrown and I'm going to sneak up on them.