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: My midge swap fly.

John Desjardins
03-04-2003, 08:40 AM
This is my midge swap fly.

Hook: TMC 200RBL, #20
Thread: Olive 8/0
Body: Olive goose biot
Thorax: Peacock herl

Wrap a base coat of thread stopping partially down bend of hook. Pull a biot from the strip of feathers (don't cut it) and tie it in with the dimple on the base of the feather towards the eye of the hook. Wrap the biot forward and tie off. Tie in a piece of peacock herl, wrap 3-5 turns then tie off.

If you reverse the direction of the dimple on the biot you will get a smooth body, rather than the ribbed look.

Or a whole batch of them

03-04-2003, 09:22 AM
John, those look great and will catch fish. The ribbing effect is right on. How small can you tie them? I have never thought of wrapping a biot on a really small hook.

03-04-2003, 03:34 PM
one of mine is very similar to that but it has a white antron wing case and gills

John Desjardins
03-04-2003, 03:47 PM
Brad, I don't know how small I can go. Ive bought them in #22. I'll see if I can tie a #26 tonight. One thing I forgot to put in the description is that the biots are easier to use if they are wet.

Sean that sounds great.

03-04-2003, 04:35 PM
the original patern i got the recipe from used snow shoe rabbit hair

03-05-2003, 08:36 AM
Snowshoe hair is one of my favorite materials. I tie it under a softhackle to give a bubble when it is under water or with a false cast and you have a floating fly. The grey underfur works great as a post for parachute BWO and without the hackle you get an emerging BWO that sits right in the film. I still like antron on midges for the touch of sparkle.

John Desjardins
03-05-2003, 08:56 AM
Brad you can be the judge of if its tieable in smaller sizes. Heres the pattern tied in #26. Same materials just a different color

Next to a dime to show size.

03-05-2003, 08:58 AM
John, please re-post; foto doesn't show up. TIA.

John Desjardins
03-05-2003, 09:43 AM
GRR server screwups...
I can FTP to it, but then not see the directory on the web. And the 1'st two pictures are in that directory as well.

03-05-2003, 01:04 PM
These look great!. Can't wait to see the rest of the entries.

John Desjardins
03-05-2003, 01:12 PM
"Can't wait to see the rest of the entries"

I'll get started on posting them tomorrow.

Dble Haul
03-05-2003, 01:23 PM
After seeing the pic of the flies next to the dime, I can suddenly remember why I don't tie many midges. :eyecrazy:

They look very good John. :)

John Desjardins
03-05-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Dble Haul
After seeing the pic of the flies next to the dime, I can suddenly remember why I don't tie many midges. :eyecrazy:

Mark they are surprisingly easy and quick to tie. :)

03-05-2003, 07:21 PM
man those are small
how often do you guys come across situations where you need to use those?

03-06-2003, 09:34 AM
Sean, If you fish any of the tailwaters out west you can get by with size 20 flies but you will often get outfished 10 to one by the guy fishing 24 and 26 stuff. I experienced it on the green and it is especially true on the san juan where the river is a soup of micro midge larva. Big fish get bigger eating that tiny stuff all day long.

John Desjardins
03-06-2003, 09:54 AM

First I appologize for not looking at your flys before I posted mine. When I scanned all the flys I realized that your version of this fly looks much better than mine. I should examine the flys more carefully before I start posting.

I have one river where small flys are the rule. Lots of fish, clear water, and heavy fishing pressure lead to using small flys unless one likes seeing the fish refuse flys.

03-07-2003, 03:40 PM
no appology is needed there are many useful variations of lfies

03-07-2003, 04:17 PM
BTW - John, I think I speak for everyone when I say... YOU DO GREAT WORK!!!!

thanks from da gang!